1 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:06,070 when astronauts leave earth for places 2 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:08,080 like an asteroid or mars one of the 3 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:09,760 things we're trying to learn is how they 4 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:11,599 can grow their own food since it's 5 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:13,200 especially important that we may not be 6 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:14,559 able to resupply them with food 7 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:16,000 especially things like fruits and 8 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:18,000 vegetables that's where a facility 9 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,359 called veggie comes in and veggie is 10 00:00:25,429 --> 00:00:23,199 already proven that you can grow lettuce 11 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:25,439 in space so now the question is is it 12 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:27,039 safe to eat 13 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:29,439 the first test went pretty well we had 14 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,359 three plants that grew really well and 15 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:33,760 they were harvested on space station by 16 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:35,600 commander steve swanson when he was up 17 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:37,920 there and everybody really enjoyed 18 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:39,600 growing the plants from from the 19 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:41,600 responses that we've heard 20 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:43,440 we did have a few issues with the 21 00:00:47,350 --> 00:00:45,280 watering system for veggies so we're 22 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,360 actually working on trying to get those 23 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:49,920 issues solved and grow some more plants 24 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:52,079 for the crew so what did you grow and 25 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:53,120 did it grow 26 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:55,440 so we grew red romaine lettuce the first 27 00:01:00,549 --> 00:00:58,800 time um and and it grew um and we had we 28 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:00,559 had three good looking plants that were 29 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:02,879 harvested we were um hoping to have six 30 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:05,439 plants and one never germinated at all 31 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:06,640 so we're trying to figure out what 32 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:10,560 happened with that packet um i think um 33 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:12,880 we're growing the the veggies in we call 34 00:01:16,390 --> 00:01:14,640 plant pillows they're little grow bags 35 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,400 and so we brought that one back to 36 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:18,000 figure out why it didn't grow and then 37 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:19,840 two actually died because they had some 38 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,400 water stress but the other three um grew 39 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:24,720 fine commander swanson actually watered 40 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:27,280 the plants directly and and that helped 41 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:28,720 to save them 42 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:30,640 stationary for veggies the five other 43 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:33,840 pillows work without any problem 44 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:35,840 uh it's great to hear so now we're 45 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:38,799 figuring out why the watering system 46 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:40,000 didn't 47 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:42,000 perform in the way that we needed it to 48 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:44,640 and we'll be able to try it again but it 49 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:46,720 was it was red romaine lettuce was the 50 00:01:49,990 --> 00:01:48,880 first crop and did anyone taste it after 51 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:50,000 it came back 52 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:52,479 no so we harvested 53 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:55,280 them in june and they were frozen on 54 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,119 orbit because we really wanted to figure 55 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:59,520 out the food safety the microbiology of 56 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:01,119 these plants to know 57 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:03,439 are they safe for the crew to eat um 58 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:05,119 there's not really an easy way to wash 59 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:08,479 your vegetables in space and so 60 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,080 we had them frozen in melfi in the -80 61 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:14,800 laboratory freezer on iss and then 62 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:17,440 brought back on space x4 so we got those 63 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:19,520 back around the end of october and we 64 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:22,800 were able to look at the microorganisms 65 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:24,160 on the plants 66 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:25,120 so i know you're in the middle of 67 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:27,200 analyzing the lettuce that came back but 68 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:28,400 is there anything you can share with us 69 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:30,879 right now that you've learned sure 70 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:33,280 so we did preliminary food safety 71 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,680 analysis of the microbiology 72 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:37,440 and that looked about what we would 73 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:40,239 expect on station um the levels were 74 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:42,959 fairly consistent you know they they 75 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,200 they probably are low enough that the 76 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:47,280 food would actually be safe for the crew 77 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:50,080 to eat so we're working right now with 78 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:52,000 the advanced environmental health and 79 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:55,200 the food folks to to get to that point 80 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:58,000 we also analyzed the plants in terms of 81 00:03:02,309 --> 00:02:59,519 antioxidants 82 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,319 anthocyanins phenolics and elements and 83 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,640 those all looked pretty similar to the 84 00:03:07,589 --> 00:03:06,159 ground plants there might be some 85 00:03:10,869 --> 00:03:07,599 differences but we had such a small 86 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:10,879 sample number it's a little hard to tell 87 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,800 we're doing some other things right now 88 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,640 in terms of the plant pillows and doing 89 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:16,560 the analysis of those but that's still 90 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:19,280 in work there is no up or down in space 91 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:21,360 so how do the plants know where to go 92 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:23,200 right or grow 93 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,760 i mean it's it's a very good point um 94 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:27,840 plants are are really interesting in 95 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:30,000 that they kind of key in on different 96 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:32,560 stimuli so in the absence of gravity the 97 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:34,400 shoots grow towards the light you know 98 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:36,080 and on earth shoots occur towards the 99 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,680 light so in veggie we have the lights on 100 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:39,840 top and the chutes grow up 101 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:41,040 the roots 102 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:42,560 you know they don't know which way is up 103 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:43,920 and down but they'll tend to grow 104 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,400 towards things like water gradients or 105 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,799 pockets of nutrients 106 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:50,480 and they get kind of contained in those 107 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:52,720 plant pillows but one of the things that 108 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:55,360 we're interested in veggie is looking at 109 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:57,519 can we can we do x-ray scans of those 110 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:59,439 plant pillows and see the roots and see 111 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:01,439 how it's different so that's that's a 112 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:03,280 really interesting question because 113 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:04,799 getting that root zone right is the 114 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:06,959 biggest challenge we've had so far 115 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:08,560 now will this help with crop production 116 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,599 on earth 117 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:11,680 well i mean we're learning a lot of 118 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,080 basic plant physiology using the space 119 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:16,720 station you know veggie 120 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:19,120 is one thing but we've had years of 121 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:21,040 really great experiments and we still 122 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,639 have a lot of really great experiments 123 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:24,240 going on and we have some more hardware 124 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:26,080 that's going to be going up in the next 125 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,360 couple of years a very high-tech plant 126 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:31,120 growth chamber called the advanced plant 127 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:34,080 habitat where we'll get even more really 128 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:36,560 solid information on plant physiology in 129 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:37,919 space 130 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:40,560 and you know we're also learning about 131 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:43,600 building better plant growth systems 132 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,680 the lighting studies that we've done 133 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:47,199 here on earth trying to figure out 134 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:49,840 what's the most effect or efficient form 135 00:04:54,950 --> 00:04:52,720 of electric lighting are are being used 136 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:54,960 in commercial greenhouse industries now 137 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,880 you know the same types of led lighting 138 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,639 that we're using on veggie 139 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,479 is going on in commercial greenhouses 140 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,560 around the world and in things like 141 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:04,960 plant factories vertical urban 142 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:08,240 agriculture so right there a lot of this 143 00:05:13,029 --> 00:05:09,919 nasa research you know is kind of 144 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,039 translating into commercial 145 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:15,759 applications that help us grow healthier 146 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:18,960 you know more efficient more 147 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:21,360 energy efficient more labor-efficient 148 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:23,120 types of crop plants you know because we 149 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:24,400 got a lot of people to feed on this 150 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:26,800 planet so anything that we can learn 151 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:29,840 can you know hopefully translate 152 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:31,120 so what are the types of plants you're 153 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,400 looking at next 154 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:34,560 so the the next types of plants that 155 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:36,639 we're thinking about growing 156 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:39,759 are more leafy greens for for the near 157 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:42,880 term because um they grow more quickly 158 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:44,080 and they're something that the crew 159 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:46,400 might be able to eat as a salad in you 160 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:49,039 know in the next you know year or so and 161 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:51,039 that would be ideal so we're looking at 162 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:53,600 like small chinese cabbages and other 163 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:55,440 varieties of leafy greens that would 164 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,880 taste good be nutritious and grow well 165 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:01,280 and then in a little farther out we're 166 00:06:05,430 --> 00:06:03,280 starting to look at dwarf peppers and 167 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,440 dwarf tomatoes because we want these 168 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:07,680 other components of the salad system you 169 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:09,919 know a salad is not just lettuce so 170 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:11,840 it'll be nice to have that variety as 171 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,680 well 172 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:15,440 and in case you're wondering the lights 173 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:17,440 are purple they look a little pink but 174 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:20,400 red plus blue leds equals purple 175 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:21,759 because plants need those kind of 176 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:23,440 wavelengths to grow now plants are green 177 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:24,800 because they reflect most of the green 178 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:27,680 light but absorb the red and blue so 179 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:29,360 there are some green leds in the veggie 180 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,880 as well and and that's really to make 181 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:33,039 the plants look green and that's really 182 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,720 for the crew and and not really the 183 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:36,720 plants the astronauts really apparently 184 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:38,639 seem to like the purple lights uh 185 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:40,800 they've taken a ton of photos just the 186 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,520 lights off and the columbus module and